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USB and HDMI Over Cat5/Cat6
« on: November 27, 2013, 04:34:35 PM »
So I've had a number of questions as to what adapters I've been using to move HDMI and USB over the network, and I realized I never listed anything specific.  Although I've gone through a number of these looking for the best one, the two I've had the least issues with are below.

A couple of notes on this also.

  • For the USB, I simply use USB 1.1, as all I'm needing to extend are the keyboard and mouse.
  • In all instances, the CAT5/CAT6 must be wired directly for these adapters.  They cannot pass through a switch.
  • In cases where you have a USB item that "sleeps", like a wireless keyboard that sleeps to conserve battery, I've found in my cases, when they "sleep", they disconnect and never "re-connect".  I have not investigated this any further, so this may be solvable, but is worth mentioning.

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USB 1.1 Over CAT5 Extender
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Re: USB and HDMI Over Cat5/Cat6
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2014, 12:12:16 PM »
I am testing with the following adapters since they do not require external power:

HDMI:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=109&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011012&p_id=6532&seq=1&format=2

Currently I am having an issue getting full 1080i but I do have some older cat5 patch cords.  I plan to swap out with new cat6 patch cords to see if that resolves my issues.

USB:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030313&p_id=6042&seq=1&format=2

I am running ESXi 5.5 and I have passed through USB 3.0 ports.  The adapters are only good for USB 1.0 and 1.1 but the 3.0 ports downgrade to 1.1 just fine. 

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Re: USB and HDMI Over Cat5/Cat6
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2014, 03:14:38 PM »
I am testing with the following adapters since they do not require external power:

HDMI:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=109&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011012&p_id=6532&seq=1&format=2

Currently I am having an issue getting full 1080i but I do have some older cat5 patch cords.  I plan to swap out with new cat6 patch cords to see if that resolves my issues.

USB:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030313&p_id=6042&seq=1&format=2

I am running ESXi 5.5 and I have passed through USB 3.0 ports.  The adapters are only good for USB 1.0 and 1.1 but the 3.0 ports downgrade to 1.1 just fine.
Any feedback on your results with the monoprice devices? :)

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Re: USB and HDMI Over Cat5/Cat6
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2015, 03:18:54 PM »
  • For the USB, I simply use USB 1.1, as all I'm needing to extend are the keyboard and mouse.
  • In all instances, the CAT5/CAT6 must be wired directly for these adapters.  They cannot pass through a switch.
@vintagedon

Have you noticed any lag from USB mouse & keyboard over Cat5e/6 to VM, back across Cat5/6 to HDMI monitor?

You said before that your son can game on his 'physicalized' VM, and I'm wondering specifically if it's quick enough that you can play hi-speed games like an FPS without any noticeable lag on the human end.

Also, how do you passthru sound for the physical VM's? USB speakers?
« Last Edit: February 18, 2015, 11:16:22 AM by Getmo »

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Re: USB and HDMI Over Cat5/Cat6
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2015, 10:08:11 AM »
  • For the USB, I simply use USB 1.1, as all I'm needing to extend are the keyboard and mouse.
  • In all instances, the CAT5/CAT6 must be wired directly for these adapters.  They cannot pass through a switch.
@vintagedon

Have you noticed any lag from USB mouse & keyboard over Cat5e/6 to VM, back across Cat5/6 to HDMI monitor?

You said before that your son can game on his 'physicalized' VM, and I'm wondering specifically if it's quick enough that you can play hi-speed games like an FPS without any noticeable lag on the human end.

Also, how do you passthru sound for the physical VM's? USB speakers?

I don't play FPS's (I think they're silly), however, I do play an MMO, and have not noticed any keyboard / mouse 'lag'.  I move my mouse, the mouse cursor moves.  I type a letter, it shows up.  There is no perceptible 'lag'. 

That said, I'm using the following Cables2Go RapidRun parts to bring HDMI to my monitor from roughly 56' of cable:  42411, 42405, 42422.  Now, before you go crazy at how expensive these parts are @ C2G's web page, I picked up each of them on eBay for a fraction of the cost (for example, 42422 is $230 at C2G, and I picked it up for $18 + $7 shipping -- I'm pretty sure the guy selling it had no idea what he had). 

I just wish getting at least USB2 via cat5 wasn't so expensive...  :(

As to your audio question -- HDMI carries audio.  All you need is a monitor with speakers, or a monitor like mine (it's a Dell 24", but I don't recall the model right now).  It doesn't have built in speakers, but it *does* have a stereo "audio out" port, and speakers can be plugged into that.  I, however, ran into an odd issue with this method, and instead installed a USB sound card onto the USB hub built into my monitor, and use *that* for sound.  There is enough bandwidth on the USB 1.0 extender for the keyboard / mouse / USB sound (but not much else). 

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Re: USB and HDMI Over Cat5/Cat6
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2016, 10:49:34 AM »